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Subject: Re: themes, skins, backdrops and RAM usage... (i.e sure to be controversial)

Re: themes, skins, backdrops and RAM usage... (i.e sure to be controversial)

From: Jonathan Gordon <>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:57:41 -0800

2009/12/21 Thomas Martitz <>:
> Am 21.12.2009 21:41, schrieb Jonathan Gordon:
>> 2009/12/21 Thomas Martitz<>:
>>> Stop acting as if everyone was using the new possibilities. Those
>>> setttings
>>> are still valid. Rockbox can be perfectly used without sbs or ui viewport
>>> at
>>> all. Those are additional features, not requirements. Also, you can put a
>>> "-" in the viewport definitions for the colors in which case the global
>>> settings are used.
>> set the colours to - and watch what happens when you change the
>> colours manually.
> It doesn't apply until after a reboot. It appears you introduced that bug
> then lately, because I kept it working with my custom ui vp and sbs patches.
> Anyway, that one is easy to fix and doesn't make them obsolete.
> Best regards.

its the same argument about which takes precedence, the ui viewport of
%Vi from the sbs, in this case its the colour setting or the colour
from the winner of the viewport one... the whole point is there should
be no argument anywhere because there should be no choice.
In actual fact, the only time the setting would ever make sense is if
the viewport can remember that its set to - and not a value, and even
then that would only work if the setting is loaded before the skin
(might be correct, but based on an assumption, not a spec).

circling back to the argument 2 months ago about which viewport gets
precendece... there is exactly one use case where it makes sense that
the setting exists, i.e if the user wants a smaller list than the
themer origionally allowed for in the sbs, which is now a mute point
because its a 1 line change in the sbs because we force the list to
fit inside it anyway.

ditto for colours.

I do accept that this makes it slightly annoying for people who dont
use any of the theme features other than colour, but frankly, its a
set and forget setting for them anyway, so why cant it be set in a
text file instead of a menu? (or we can easily use a very awesome
plugin to take care of the whole thing, including the currently
special/hidden/cfg-only ui viewport setting)

Received on 2009-12-22

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