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Subject: Re: P#11260 Task closed by nls: lets keybox import its database from an external text file

Re: P#11260 Task closed by nls: lets keybox import its database from an external text file

From: Nils Wallménius <>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:48:42 +0200

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Hugo Cello <> wrote:
> Sorry for the noise!!!
> I first tried to send the below attached text to the list using a wrong sender
> address so it never arrived, then I sent it from a Web interface with the
> result, that the text was scrambled into some html crap. Now I'll try again
> and hope, it goes through. Please ignore generously my former dilettanteish
> efforts.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Rockboxers,
> I'm using amongst others the keybox plugin for storing my passwords on a Sansa
> e200. To fill this data base with a bigger amount of URLs, user and password
> pairs it's a pain in the ass to type in all the data using the
> internal "keyboard". That's why I wrote a patch for keybox to be able to read
> the data base from an external text file and encrypt them (see
> The patch now is rejected due to security reasons. The objection is that if I
> copy the text file onto the device, import it into keybox and delete the file
> afterwards, it could be restored from disk. Obviously even the possibility to
> have a warning in the manual and let the user decide if he wants to take the
> (really small) risk seems not to be acceptable.
> Still I think the usability of keybox would be greatly improved if we could
> import the data base from file. So I like to ask you, the developers, if you
> have any idea how to do this in a secure manner. One possibility could be to
> offer an external program that creates the keyboard.dat file on your computer
> and than copy it to Rockbox but I'd prefere to have this functionality inside
> Rockbox.
> Any idea would be highly appreciated
> Gerhard
> On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Rockbox wrote:
>> The following task is now closed:
>> FS#11260 - lets keybox import its database from an external text file
>> User who did this - Nils Wallménius (nls)
>> Reason for closing: Rejected
>> Additional comments about closing: I'm sorry but this is a too great
>> security risk and even reisk lulling users into false security.
>> More information can be found at the following URL:

Hi, I too thought about better ways to populate the keybox database
and an external application is the only thing i could come up with.
The plain text file with passwords that are imported might also
encourage users to create and store such a file on their computer,
also not everyone reads the manual and so might be unaware of the
A schredding (secure delete) function could probably be implemented
but wouldn't be reliable on flash based targets where we do not have a
software FTL.

Received on 2010-08-21

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