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Subject: Re: Making absolute point mode default

Re: Making absolute point mode default

From: Jonathan Gordon <>
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:38:30 +1100

On 1 November 2010 12:21, Thomas Martitz
<> wrote:
> I realized it wasn't clear from my first post, I'm sorry about that. It was
> my plan from the beginning to change the default for at least RaaA. And I
> never intended to make a vote or so, but instead gather opinions as to what
> to do about the other touchscreen targets. I (IMO rightfully) didn't change
> the two other targets because we didn't reach a consensus (even though
> everyone is _generally_ in favor of changing the default).

You got the opinions and ignored them.

> I'm wondering why you want it reverted because I see quotes like this from
> you in IRC:
> 11.08.57 # <JdGordon>
> Reading this actually motivated me to make the change. And it made me think
> you're strongly in favor of changing the default. You were angry that the
> change still didn't happen and now chose to blame me? I'm confused.

I am strongly in favour of the change, I'm also strongly in favour of
reverting it because we have consensus and by that consensus it isnt

> But *unusable* ports aren't for new users. We don't have any responsibility
> towards users for these two ports. We have the 3-tier system for this
> reason. Heck, the targets I changed are in the same category as targets that
> probably don't even boot anymore.
> Also, who else - if not the maintainer - has the power to say when the
> target is ready? Who? I find it disrespectful to disregard the opinion of
> the one and only maintainer, declaring it irrelevant.

My view (and I don't think I am alone here) is that this isnt a
subjective opinion. Either a target can possibly get stuck in any
screen (except panic()) or it cant. android as of a week ago cant so
it is acceptable, onda (IIUC) *can* so it isn't acceptable. The needed
changes for this are entirely target independent and simple, so it
should (and could) be done so grid mode is only needed for plugins for
any new port, but instead you decided to be selfish and push the
change without regard for anyone else.

You have repeatedly said you dont see this work as being likely to
happen any time soon, so your answer is to make it even less likely to
happen... very poor form.

Received on 2010-11-01

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