From: Hayden Pearce <saint.lascivious_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 20:38:12 +1200

On 15/08/2011 7:22 PM, "Thomas Jarosch" <tomj_at_simonv.com> wrote:
>
> On Sunday, 14. August 2011 23:05:40 Alex Parker wrote:
> > On 14/08/11 22:41, sideral wrote:
> > > That won't work so nicely as the two menu entries you suggest to merge
> > > live in two different menus. I'd prefer to keep it that way because
> > > starting the timer is not a persistent setting and hence doesn't
belong
> > > into the Settings menu.
> > >
> > > sideral
> >
> > This sounds rather irritating for those of us that set a different time
> > each time depending on circumstances - I now have to go into one menu to
> > set the time, then another to actually start it?
> >
> > Can't we think of some way of having all the sleep timer stuff together?
>
> How about this one:
>
> *** Settings > General > System > Sleep timer ***
> Default sleep timer duration (time)
> Start at boot (yes/no)
>
> *** System > (Date & Time) menu ***
> "Start sleep timer" -> Brings back the old sleep timer selector
> with the "default sleep timer duration" selected as default.
>
> That way we would get the persistent sleep timer and a sensible
> default value while keeping to freedom to choose another value easily.
>
> Changes to current patch:
> - "Sleep timer duration" becomes "Default sleep timer duration"
> - Add selector back to start sleep timer menu entry
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas

I share Alex's dislike of having to go to two places in the menu to perform
one task.
I genuinely believe there is a valid argument for pulling the Date & Time
menu out of System and putting it in Settings.
There are a couple of items (most of them? I've no target near me presently)
in the Time & Date menu that are indeed persistent so I don't think its too
much of a stretch placing it in the Settings menu.
IIRC both Thomas and sideral agreed that moving Time & Date into Settings
would make this patch a lot easier on the user when I brought it up on IRC,
I think it's worth discussing here to see if the world would come to a
crashing halt if Time & Date were moved.
Its speculation of course but I'd be reasonably willing to guess that most
new users would actually expect Time & Date to be in Settings, moving it out
would also leave the System menu for "System-esque" things that a normal
user most likely won't touch in the course of normal operation (Rockbox
Info, Credits, Running Time and Debug (Keep Out!)).

[Saint]
Received on 2011-08-15