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Subject: Re: SUMMARY: FS#10849 - Sleep timer options: persistent duration and start on boot

Re: SUMMARY: FS#10849 - Sleep timer options: persistent duration and start on boot

From: Paul Louden <>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:44:24 -0500

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Gordon <> wrote:
> What has how you set it got anything to do with it being a setting or
> not? Time does not magically change when you give your DAP to your
> sibling.

No, but it changes when you enter another time zone. Or daylight
savings changes. Or the battery dies. Which makes it really handy to
have a setting that allows you to set (notice the use of that word by
both you and me) the clock.

Good lord, "Time and Date" is listed under Settings for any number of
devices, operating systems, and miscellaneous things. Look at your
phone. Look at your personal computer. How is this even contentious?

Time and Date are values that can be displayed. Time and Date, in the
real world, don't change. But the specific time and date you're
experiencing can change. Or can be forgotten due to power failure. The
setting isn't expected to change the outside time, so there's no
expectation for it to magically change when you're giving your DAP to
your sibling. Time passes one second at a time. You're setting the
frame of reference your device will track time within. But "Local
reference moment for tracking of time" isn't the normal setting name.
People expect it to be "Time & Date" or "Date & Time" or some
appropriately localized variant.
Received on 2011-08-23

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