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Subject: Re: SUMMARY: FS#10849 - Sleep timer options: persistent duration and start on boot

Re: SUMMARY: FS#10849 - Sleep timer options: persistent duration and start on boot

From: Bertrik Sikken <>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:54:08 +0200

> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Gordon <>
> wrote:
>> What has how you set it got anything to do with it being a setting or
>> not? Time does not magically change when you give your DAP to your
>> sibling.
> No, but it changes when you enter another time zone. Or daylight
> savings changes. Or the battery dies. Which makes it really handy to
> have a setting that allows you to set (notice the use of that word by
> both you and me) the clock.
> Good lord, "Time and Date" is listed under Settings for any number of
> devices, operating systems, and miscellaneous things. Look at your
> phone. Look at your personal computer. How is this even contentious?
> Time and Date are values that can be displayed. Time and Date, in the
> real world, don't change. But the specific time and date you're
> experiencing can change. Or can be forgotten due to power failure. The
> setting isn't expected to change the outside time, so there's no
> expectation for it to magically change when you're giving your DAP to
> your sibling. Time passes one second at a time. You're setting the
> frame of reference your device will track time within. But "Local
> reference moment for tracking of time" isn't the normal setting name.
> People expect it to be "Time & Date" or "Date & Time" or some
> appropriately localized variant.

I completely agree with Paul on this point.

Kind regards,
Received on 2011-08-23

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